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    Have Muslims Arrived in America?
    Published Tuesday August 15, 2000
    By Muqtedar Khan
    Nearly a decade ago, the notorious American Islamophobe Daniel Pipes
    published an article in the Atlantic Monthly titled “Muslims Are Coming,
    Muslims are Coming”. The article was an attempt to incite fear and
    hostility towards Islamic resurgence by representing Muslim search for
    authenticity and self-identity as an anti-West movement threatening its
    core interests. A decade later, one must concede that his literal
    prediction has come true, Muslims have arrived, but the substantive
    content of their arrival is far from his predictions. Muslims have truly
    arrived in the US, but not as enemies of democracy and freedom but as
    full participants in American democracy, relishing as well as defending
    its freedoms.

    This year, for the first time in American history, both the Republican
    as well as the Democratic national convention for the formalization of
    the two parties Presidential candidates will begin with prayers by
    Muslims. The Republican convention was kicked off by a ‘Dua’ (Islamic
    prayer) by Talat Othman, the Chairman of the Islamic Institute, and a
    ‘Dua’ by Dr. Maher Hathout will bless the Democratic convention.

    The dual recognition underscores not only the openness of the American
    system, but importantly it indicates the growing political influence of
    American Muslims. At the Democratic convention this year, there will be
    one hundred Muslim delegates. A remarkable achievement for a community
    that is still debating whether it is permissable to participate in
    American politics. Once an internal consensus is achieved, the community
    with its current numbers and resources has the potential to become one
    of the most powerful domestic groups.

    It is obvious that the momentum in favor of engaging in democratic
    politics is increasing within the American Muslim community. Not only
    are more and more Muslims registering to vote, Muslims are also actively
    engaging in politics on behalf of both the major parties. In other full
    and partially democratic societies like India, South Africa, UK and
    Singapore, Muslims who are in minority are politically active and full
    participants in a system that gives them an opportunity to express and
    defend their special interests.

    Very rarely are the twin questions; Are Islam and Democracy compatible?
    And Can Muslims participate in the political systems where non-Muslims
    are in majority? even discussed by the above mentioned Muslim
    communities. While Islamic political theory lags far behind, Muslim
    practices on these issues are setting the trend. With American Muslims
    joining in, it is becoming apparent that “in custom” democracy has
    become acceptable to Muslims. At this point, one must remember that
    “urf”, or custom, has always played a major roll in the development of
    Islamic legal discourse (fiqh).

    Muslim intellectuals have so far not been able to advance a widely
    acceptable model of Islamic politics for our age. But it appears as
    though Muslims are recognizing the immediate benefits of political
    engagement and are moving forward.

    While it may not be clear whether democracy as practiced in the West is
    representative of how an Islamic polity would look in our times, we do
    realize that Islam advocates universal participation. All Muslims are
    enjoined to do good and avoid evil and struggle to establish justice and
    order on earth. If participation through democratic politics gives
    Muslims in non-Muslim societies an “easy opportunity” to make some
    difference in the right direction, then they should not hesitate.

    It is not necessary that theory should always precede practice. I am
    positive that the initiatives taken by the American Muslim community in
    the interest of Islam and the well being of Muslims will also pave open
    new directions of research and inquiry for Islamic political theory.
    Yes, Muslims have arrived and America will never be the same, ever
    again. Now eat your heart out Daniel Pipes.

    (Dr. Muqtedar Khan is Assistant Professor of Political Science at a
    liberal arts school in Michigan. He is on the board of the Association
    of Muslim Social Scientists and the Center for the Study of Islam and
    Democracy. Dr. Khan is also affiliated with the International Institute
    of Islamic Thought and the Center for Balanced Development. Dr. Khan is
    a regular columnist for


    Its too long..give a sec to read...did skim through it...i think give muslims another 10 years or so.... before we really get the hang.


    till next time***Keep_It_Simple_Stupid***

    Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!




      Dr. Youssef Mroueh


      Numerous evidence suggests that Muslims from Spain and West Africa
      arrived in the Americas at least five centuries before Co1umbus. It is
      recorded, for example that in the mid-tenth century during the rule of
      the Umayed Caliph Abdul-Rahman III (929-961), Muslims of African origin
      sailed westward from the Spanish port of Delba (Palos) into the “Ocean
      of darkness an fog.” They returned after a long absence with much booty
      from a “strange and curious land.” It is evident that people of Muslim
      origin are known to have accompanied Columbus and subsequent Spanish
      explorers to the New World.

      The last Muslim stronghold in Spain, Granada, fell to the Christians in
      1492 CE, just before the Spanish inquisition was launched. To escape
      persecution, many non-Christians fled or embraced Catholicism. At least
      two documents imply the presence of Muslims in Spanish America before
      1550 CE. Despite the fact that a decree issued in 1539 CE, by Charles V,
      King of Spain, forbade the grandsons of Muslims who had been burned at
      the stake to migrate to the West Indies. This decree was ratified in
      1543 CE, and an order for the expulsion of all Muslims from overseas
      Spanish territories was subsequently published. Many references on the
      Muslim arrival in the Americas are available. They are summarized in the
      following notes:

      Historic Documents

      l. A Muslim historian and geographer Abul-Hassan Ali Ibn Al-Hussain
      Al-Masudi (871 - 957 CE) wrote in his book ‘Muruj Adh-dhahab wa Maadin
      al-Jawhar’ (The Meadows of Gold and Quarries of Jewels) that during the
      rule of the Muslim Caliph of Spain Abdullah Ibn Muhammad (888 - 912 CE),
      a Muslim navigator Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad of Cordoba, Spain
      sailed from Delba (Palos) in 889 CE, crossed the Atlantic, reached an
      unknown territory (Ard Majhoola) and returned with fabulous treasures.
      In Al-Masudi's map of the world there is a large area in the ocean of
      darkness and fog (the Atlantic ocean) which he referred to as the
      unknown territory (the Americas).

      2. A Muslim historian Abu Bakr Ibn Umar Al-Gutiyya narrated that during
      the reign of the Muslim Caliph of Spain, Hisham II (976 -1009 CE),
      another Muslim navigator Ibn Farrukh of Granada sailed from Kadesh
      (February 999 CE) into the Atlantic, landed in Gando (Great Canary
      Islands) visiting King Guanariga, and continued westward where he saw
      and named two islands, Capraria and Pluitana. He arrived back in Spain
      in May 999 CE.

      3. Columbus sailed from Palos (Delba), Spain. He was bound for Gomera
      (Canary Islands) - Gomera is an Arabic word meaning ‘small firebrand’ -
      there he fell in love with Beatriz Bobadilla, daughter of the first
      captain General of the island (the family name Bobadilla is derived from
      the Arab Islamic name Abouabdilla). Nevertheless, the Bobadilla clan was
      not easy to ignore. Another Bobadilla (Francisco), later as the royal
      commissioner, put Columbus in chains and transferred him from Santo
      Domingo back to Spain (November 1500 CE). The Bobadilla family was
      related to Abbadid dynasty of Seville (1031 -1091 CE).

      On October 12, 1492 CE, Columbus landed on a little island in the
      Bahamas that was called Guanahani by the natives. Renamed San Salvador
      by Columbus, Guanahani is derived from Mandinka and modified Arabic
      words. Guana (Ikhwana) means ‘brothers’ and Hani is an Arabic name.
      Therefore the original name of the island was ‘Hani Brothers.’ [Click
      here for corrupted names of Arabic origin, such as those starting with
      Guad-, al-, Medina and others.]

      Ferdinand Columbus, the son of Christopher, wrote about the blacks seen
      by his father in Honduras: “The people who live farther east of Pointe
      Cavinas, as far as Cape Gracios a Dios, are almost black in color.” At
      the same time in this very same region, lived a tribe of Muslim natives
      known as Almamy. In Mandinka and Arabic languages Almamy was the
      designation of “Al-Imam” or “Al-Imamu,” the person who leads the Prayer,
      or in some cases, the chief of the community, and/or a member of the
      Imami Muslim community.

      4. A renowned American historian and linguist Leo Weiner of Harvard
      University, in his book Africa and The Discovery of America (1920) wrote
      that Columbus was well aware of the Mandinka presence in the New World
      and that the West African Muslims had spread throughout the Caribbean,
      Central, South and North American territories, including Canada, where
      they were trading and intermarrying with the Iroquois and Algonquin

      Geographic Explorations

      1. The famous Muslim geographer and cartographer Al-Sharif Al-Idrisi
      (1099 - 1166 CE) wrote in his famous book ‘Nuzhat al-Mushtaq fi-Ikhtiraq
      al-Afaq (Excursion of the longing in crossing horizons) that a group of
      seafarers (from North Africa) sailed into the sea of darkness and fog
      (the Atlantic ocean) from Lisbon (Portugal), in order to discover what
      was in it and what extent were its limits. They finally reached an
      island that had people and cultivation....on the fourth day, a
      translator spoke to them in the Arabic language.

      2. The Muslim reference books mentioned a well-documented description of
      a journey across the sea of fog and darkness by Shaikh Zayn-eddine Ali
      ben Fadhel Al-Mazandarani. His journey started from Tarfay (south
      Morocco) during the reign of the King Abu-Yacoub Sidi Youssef (1286 -
      1307 CE) sixth of the Marinid dynasty, to Green Island in the Caribbean
      sea in 1291 CE (690 AH). The details of his ocean journey are mentioned
      in Islamic references, and many Muslim scholars are aware of this
      recorded historical event.

      3. The Muslim historian Chihab Addine Abul-Abbas Ahmad ben Fadhl
      Al-Umari (1300 - 1384 CE, 700 - 786 AH) described in detail the
      geographical explorations beyond the sea of fog and darkness of Male’s
      sultans in his famous book ‘Masaalik al-absaar fi Mamaalik al-amsaar
      (The Pathways of Sights in The Provinces of Kingdoms).

      4. Sultan Mansa Kankan Musa (1312 - 1337 CE) was the world renowned
      Mandinka monarch of the West African Islamic empire of Mali. While
      traveling to Makkah on his famous Hajj in 1324 CE, he informed the
      scholars of the Mamluk Bahri Sultan court (an-Nasir-eddin Muhammad III,
      1309 - 1340 CE) in Cairo that his brother, Sultan Abu Bakari I (1285 -
      1312 CE) had undertaken two expeditions into the Atlantic ocean. When
      the sultan did not return to Timbuktu from the second voyage of 1311 CE,
      Mansa Musa became sultan of the empire.

      5. Columbus and early Spanish and Portuguese explorers were able to
      voyage across the Atlantic (a distance of 24,000 Kilometers) thanks to
      Muslim geographical and navigational information, in particular maps
      made by Muslim traders, including Al-Masudi (871 - 957 CE) in his book
      ‘Akhbar Az-Zaman’ (History of The World) which is based on material
      gathered in Africa and Asia. As a matter of fact, Columbus had two
      captains of Muslim origin during his first transatlantic voyage: Martin
      Alonso Pinzon was the captain of the Pinta, and his brother Vicente
      Yanex Pinzon was the captain of the Nina. They were wealthy, expert ship
      outfitters who helped organize the Columbus expedition and repaired the
      flagship Santa Maria. They did this at their own expense for both
      commercial and political reasons. The Pinzon family was related to
      Abuzayan Muhammad III (1362 - 66 CE), the Moroccan sultan of the Marinid
      dynasty (1196 - 1465 CE).

      Arabic (Islamic) Inscriptions

      l. Anthropologists have proven that the Mandinkas under Mansa Musa's
      instructions explored many parts of North America via the Mississippi
      and other rivers systems. At Four Corners, Arizona, writings show that
      they even brought elephants from Africa to the area.

      2. Columbus admitted in his papers that on Monday, October 21, 1492 CE
      while his ship was sailing near Gibara on the north-east coast of Cuba,
      he saw a mosque on the top of a beautiful mountain. The ruins of mosques
      and minarets with inscriptions of Qur'anic verses have been discovered
      in Cuba, Mexico, Texas and Nevada.

      3. During his second voyage, Columbus was told by the Indians of
      Espanola (Haiti), that Black people had been to the island before his
      arrival. For proof they presented Columbus with the spears of these
      African Muslims. These weapons were tipped with a yellow metal that the
      Indians called Guanine, a word of West African derivation meaning ‘gold
      alloy.’ Oddly enough, it is related to the Arabic world ‘Ghinaa’ which
      means ‘Wealth.’ Columbus brought some Guanines back to Spain and had
      them tested. He learned that the metal was 18 parts gold (56.25
      percent), six parts silver (18.75 percent and eight parts copper (25
      percent), the same ratio as the metal produced in African metal shops of

      4. In 1498 CE, on his third voyage to the New World, Columbus landed in
      Trinidad. Later, he sighted the South American continent, where some of
      his crew went ashore and found natives using colorful handkerchiefs of
      symmetrically woven cotton. Columbus noticed the these handkerchiefs
      resembled the head dresses and loincloths of Guinea in their colors,
      style and function. He referred to them as Almayzars. Almayzar is an
      Arabic word for ‘wrapper,’ ‘cover,’ ‘apron’ and or ‘skirting,’ which was
      the cloth the Moors (Spanish or North African Muslims) imported from
      West Africa (Guinea) into Morocco, Spain and Portugal.

      During this voyage, Columbus was surprised that the married women wore
      cotton panties (bragas) and he wondered where these natives learned
      their modesty. Hernando Cortez, Spanish conqueror, described the dress
      of the Indian women as long veils and the dress of Indian men as
      ‘breechcloth painted in the style of Moorish draperies.’ Ferdinand
      Columbus called the native cotton garments ‘breechclothes of the same
      design and cloth as the shawls worn by the Moorish women of Granada.’
      Even the similarity of the children's hammocks to those found in North
      Africa was uncanny.

      5. Dr. Barry Fell (Harvard University) introduced in his book Saga
      America - 1980 solid scientific evidence supporting the arrival,
      centuries before Columbus, of Muslims from North and West Africa. Dr.
      Fell discovered the existence of Muslim schools at Valley of Fire, Allan
      Springs, Logomarsino, Keyhole Canyon, Washoe and Hickison Summit Pass
      (Nevada), Mesa Verde (Colorado), Mimbres Valley (New Mexico) and Tipper
      Canoe (Indiana) dating back to 700-800 CE. Engraved on rocks in the old
      western US, he found texts, diagrams and charts representing the last
      surviving fragments of what was once a system of schools - at both an
      elementary and higher levels. The language of instruction was North
      African Arabic written with old Kufic Arabic script. The subjects of
      instruction included writing, reading, arithmetic, religion, history,
      geography, mathematics, astronomy and sea navigation.

      The descendants of the Muslim visitors of North America are members of
      the present Iroquois, Algonquin, Anasazi, Hohokam and Olmec native

      6. There are 565 names of places (villages, towns, cities, mountains,
      lakes, rivers, etc.) in USA (484) and Canada (81) which are derived from
      Islamic and Arabic roots. These places were originally named by the
      natives in pre-Columbian period. Some of these names carried holy
      meanings such as: Mecca (Indiana) - 720 inhabitants, Makkah Indian tribe
      (Washington), Medina (Idaho) - 2100, Medina (NY) - 8500, Medina and
      Hazen (North Dakota) - 1100 and 5000, respectively, Medina (Ohio) -
      12,000, Medina (Tennessee) - 1100, Medina (Texas) - 26,000, Medina
      (Ontario) -1200, Mahomet (Illinois) - 3200, Mona (Utah) - 1100, Arva
      (Ontario) - 700, and many others. A careful study of the names of the
      native Indian tribes revealed that many names are derived from Arab and
      Islamic roots and origins, i.e. Anasazi, Apache, Arawak, Arikana, Chavin
      Cherokee, Cree, Hohokam, Hupa, Hopi, Makkah, Mahigan, Mohawk, Nazca,
      Zulu, Zuni, etc.

      Based on the above historical, geographical and linguistic evidence, a
      call to celebrate the millennium of the Muslim arrival to the Americas
      (996-1996), five centuries before Columbus, has been issued to all
      Muslim nations and communities around the world. We hope that this call
      will receive complete understanding and attract enough support.


        hey hey heyyyyyyyyyy come onnnnnnnnnnnn im not finished yettttt!!!


        till next time***Keep_It_Simple_Stupid***

        Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!


          Ok i finally read the whole was nice piece of reading Thank you for sharing.

          So what happened to muslims that came here 5 centuries before columbus? I wonder. Its amazing how can people take credit of other peoples hard work. What cowards they are.


          till next time***Keep_It_Simple_Stupid***

          Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!


            Originally posted by Jaawan*:
            Ok i finally read the whole was nice piece of reading Thank you for sharing.

            So what happened to muslims that came here 5 centuries before columbus? I wonder. Its amazing how can people take credit of other peoples hard work. What cowards they are.

            it of other peoples hard work. What cowards they are.


            What happened to the moslem who came 5 centuries ago??take a hint dumbo ,same question some one will ask maay be in just 1 century later ,if you do not know the history,havent you heard those who do not learn from there past mistake tend to repeat it!!

            or if you do not know where you came from how the hell you'll know where we are going??


              hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...please do try to take a joke some times... you put some long post and i read it <since no one else read it> and yo come out like a total anal person.



              till next time***Keep_It_Simple_Stupid***

              Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!



                If you or any one doesnt read these posts ,i wont be the loser.I wouldnt care the least as you know i do it for he love of the ummah not for rating or anything else.
                I am sorry if you cant take a joke from me.You know something if you call a black person 'nigger'he might beat you up.But among themselves they call each other nigga or nigger all the time.They say you have to have "ownership " of blackness to be able to take liberties.Similarly when i call you stupid,dumbo or sometime even ass hole DONT BE OFFENDED,YOU can call me too,but not the indians!

                As for reading ,i thankyou for learning something very important.


                  array sanum jeee kioun ghussa khatti ho anyway it was a great topic but sorry dont have words to describe it and i admire the way u wrote it
                  take care and have fun

                  **AbhI tOu mAi JaWAn HoUn**