Zimbabwe Issue (Merged)

[Mr Xtreme]

England and Australia are preparing to refuse to play in Zimbabwe and New Zealand have pulled out of the Kenya game. I don't have any problem with that if it's a political decision but they should have the points deducted as per rules. This issue is threatening to wreck the World Cup.

[fantastic1]

too bad but I think Pak ki Aus aur Eng key sath game Zimbabwe mey nahi hey

[funguy]

I hope 2007 World Cup be held in Afghanistan.

[fantastic1]

On a serious note yes the points should be deducted as per rule. As for this thingy threatening to reck the world cup well jissey nea khelna na khaley "wich pasoori paney" ki koi zaroorat nea

[funguy]

The 'morality' of the Zimbabwe situation lies in the eviction of the white farmers, most of them of British origin, and handing over their lands to landless black Zimbabweans. Indeed, if there is anything particularly 'moral' about a visibly foreign two per cent owning 74 per cent of the choicest farmlands in a country, I must say it has missed me by a country mile. I wonder what would happen if the Asian population in the UK, which stands at almost five per cent, would take over three-quarters of the best farmlands; the mind boggles at the prospect!

The moral argument against Zimbabwe is also pretty thin. There are any number of other governments whose human rights records are no better than Zimbabwe's and some who make Mugabe look like an amateur. Compared to the whirlwind century Ariel Sharon [Israel's defence minister in 1982] knocked up in Chatilla [a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon], poor Mugabe has not yet got into double figures! Yet an Israeli under-21 football team was welcomed and played in England last year without even a murmur from the government or Football Association -- the same FA which ruled out a football tour of Zimbabwe.

In any case, morality is by no means the exclusive ruling domain of England and Australia, both countries heavily supporting the impending mayhem in Iraq, while the obvious inference that countries like Pakistan, India, Holland and Namibia, who will be playing in Zimbabwe, are somehow devoid of such high moral values.

{Excerpts from a column written by Asif Iqbal}

[a1kashur]

aren't they getting free points if they don't play in Zim/Ken? If this happens, this WC won't be that interesting.

[mo_best]

Mugabe is simply returning the lands to its rightful owners.

[funguy]

I think Zimbabwe should ban England team to enter their country.

[Mr Xtreme]

As far as I know, the players themselves originally wanted to play (don't all players want to win the world cup?)
but a big media campaign has swung things and they are now under pressure not to play citing safety reasons. Pakistan toured India after receiving threats from GOVERNMENT ministers (Bal Thackeray) so I think it's a bit lame to cop out like this. Cricket is heading for a racial split with these attitudes.

[Asif_k]

Originally posted by Mr Xtreme: Pakistan toured India after receiving threats from GOVERNMENT ministers (Bal Thackeray)

What is this Crap ?? Xtreme, Please tell me which Government Minister threatened Pakistani team during that India Tour ??

Coming back to the topic :- Whichever team decides to boycott Zimbabwe should not only have its point docked but should also have some % of their share of money (they are going to get after WC)deducted. After all they all signed a contract to participate in the world cup match.

[andha_qanoon]

Originally posted by Mr Xtreme:
Pakistan toured India after receiving threats from GOVERNMENT ministers (Bal Thackeray) .

somebody needs to improve his General Knowledge.

[andha_qanoon]

Zimbabwe refuse to play in South Africa

This is getting innntresting... I tend to agree with ZIM though...

http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/FEB/133854_REUTERS_05FEB2003.html

JOHANNESBURG, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Zimbabwe will refuse to play any of their World Cup matches if they are switched to South Africa, the Zimbabwe Cricket Union (ZCU) said on Wednesday.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) is set to decide on Thursday whether to agree to England's request to move their February 13 match in Zimbabwe because of mounting concerns about the security situation in the strife-torn country.

"Certainly we will not be playing any of our six group matches outside the country," ZCU chairman Peter Chingoka was quoted as saying by the BBC.

"We will only go to South Africa for the Super Six stage, and if there is to be any other directive then we will use every channel until justice prevails."

Australia have expressed some concerns but are still planning to play their match against Zimbabwe in Bulawayo on February 24, while India and Pakistan, the Netherlands and Namibia have said they are happy to go ahead with their games as scheduled.

"Zimbabwe was given the rights to host six group matches, and all the teams must honour contractual obligations of the tournament by fulfilling those matches," Chingoka added.

"We have steered away from political and moral issues to stick to the issue of safety and security for the players and officials.

"There have been security delegations from the ICC, who have expressed satisfaction at our security modalities for the World Cup."

[funguy]

This was expected and rightly so.

[UMAIR316]

Originally posted by Mr Xtreem:
Pakistan toured India after receiving threats from GOVERNMENT ministers (Bal Thackeray)

Originally posted by Asif_k:
What is this Crap ?? Xtreme, Please tell me which Government Minister threatened Pakistani team during that India Tour ??

Originally posted by andha_qanoon:
somebody needs to improve his General Knowledge.

Hindu leader issues call to block Pakistan cricket tour

A fireband Hindu leader, whose party runs the government in the western state of Maharashtra, has issued a war cry against a planned Pakistan cricket tour here, reports said Wednesday.

``Hindus should rise up against the (visiting) Pakistan cricket team. This is a test of strength for Hindus,'' said Bal Thackeray, who heads the Hindu militant Shiv Sena party.

The Shiv Sena is a member of Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee's eight-month-old federal coalition government.

[UMAIR316]

Good decision by Zimbabwe, they should stand for their rights. Either give them the points or tour the country.