Padded record of Abbas:exposing the clown within.

[mo_best]

This thread wil be short, I had written a longer post on this topc, but it was against the topic of Afridi as was thus deleted.

You make a big deal of Abbas averaging 44.79 in test crciket and use that figure as "proof" of his class-without breaking down the statistics to show how average he was, bordering on mediocre. He scored against the poor attacks in featherbed conditions and failed against the best opposition in his era, which is the major criteria by which a batsman must be rabked-how they perform against the best.


For the majority of his era, the West Indies were by far the bestteam in the world and his record against them is laughable:

matches: 8
innings: 15
runs: 259
ave: 18.50

h/s: 80


His record against the best team is crap, and exposes his inability to play fast bowling, he was a flat track bully-and that too in part against a team which had JUST got its test status-equivalent to todays bangladesh!

His record is good as India and lanka were a feast of runs, his averages are 87 and 69 respectively-thats hardly consistant performing. Its a case of feeding of the crap bowling attacks and then messing up when it matters against the top side as you lack the technique to deal with it. HE WAS scared of pace bowling, Imran Khan testifies to this in "Imran Khan" by Ivo Tenant and Viv too in "Sir Vivian".

Even against NZl he was crap, the presence of the great Richard Hadlee was enough to expose his flat track bully technique, his average is a mere 17! :rotfl"

If you take away his perormances against INDIA, who had Kapil Dev, Roger Binney and Madan Lal-hardly a top attack, worthy of ceating a reputation on. And SRL-who had just started, his record is mediocre.

He couldnt play pace, and his record is testimony to that-he was a flat track bully, and little else.

[Mr Xtreme]

This is 100% true.

Zaheer was a flat track bully without a doubt. I never rated this tosspot.

This guy WAS scared of fast bowling, unlike Afridi who just wasn't good enough to play against it.

[mo_best]

No one can argue against the solid facts I post, backed up with close analysis and expeerrt opinion. I never just attack players class' without reason-yet many ppl here seem to rate ppl who are jokers and a disgrace to Pakistan's team.

[mo_best]

Wheres Lahore MUnda and Yaasir, they insisted he was top. :rotfl"

[armughal]

ZAHEER ABBAS TEST INNINGS

  12   5 caught    1    D 1st Test  v NZ  in Pak 1969/70 at Karachi [662]
  27   6 caught    3    
 274   3 caught    1    D 1st Test  v Eng in Eng 1971    at Birmingham [687]
  40   3 caught    2    D 2nd Test  v Eng in Eng 1971    at Lord's [688]
  72   3 caught    2    L 3rd Test  v Eng in Eng 1971    at Leeds [689]
   0   3 caught    4    
   7   3 caught wk 1    L 1st Test  v Aus in Aus 1972/73 at Adelaide [704]
   0   3 caught wk 3    
  51   3 run out   2    L 2nd Test  v Aus in Aus 1972/73 at Melbourne [705]
  25   3 run out   4    
  14   3 caught wk 2    L 3rd Test  v Aus in Aus 1972/73 at Sydney [707]
  47   3 caught    4    
   2   3 caught    1    D 1st Test  v NZ  in NZ  1972/73 at Wellington [710]
   8   3 caught wk 3    
  15   2 caught wk 1    W 2nd Test  v NZ  in NZ  1972/73 at Dunedin [712]
  10   2 caught    1    D 3rd Test  v NZ  in NZ  1972/73 at Auckland [713]
   0   2 caught    3    
  24   5 caught    2    D 2nd Test  v Eng in Pak 1972/73 at Hyderabad (Sind) [717]
  22*  7 not out   1    D 3rd Test  v Eng in Pak 1972/73 at Karachi [719]
   4   3 caught wk 3    
  48   5 caught wk 1    D 1st Test  v Eng in Eng 1974    at Leeds [742]
  19   5 caught wk 3    
   1   3 caught    1    D 2nd Test  v Eng in Eng 1974    at Lord's [743]
   1   3 caught    3    
 240   3 bowled    1    D 3rd Test  v Eng in Eng 1974    at The Oval [744]
  15   3 caught wk 3    
  18   3 caught wk 1    D 1st Test  v WI  in Pak 1974/75 at Lahore [756]
  33   3 lbw       3    
  18   3 caught wk 1    D 2nd Test  v WI  in Pak 1974/75 at Karachi [759]
   2   1 caught    3    
  15   3 bowled    1    W 1st Test  v NZ  in Pak 1976/77 at Lahore [782]
  15   3 caught    4    
  11   3 lbw       1    W 2nd Test  v NZ  in Pak 1976/77 at Hyderabad (Sind) [783]
 DNB   - -         4    
   3   3 bowled    1    D 3rd Test  v NZ  in Pak 1976/77 at Karachi [784]
  16   3 caught wk 3    
  85   3 caught    1    D 1st Test  v Aus in Aus 1976/77 at Adelaide [789]
 101   3 caught    3    
  90   3 bowled    2    L 2nd Test  v Aus in Aus 1976/77 at Melbourne [790]
  58   3 lbw       4    
   5   3 caught    2    W 3rd Test  v Aus in Aus 1976/77 at Sydney [792]
   4   3 caught    4    
   0   3 bowled    1    D 3rd Test  v WI  in WI  1976/77 at Georgetown [801]
  80   3 caught    3    
  14   3 bowled    1    W 4th Test  v WI  in WI  1976/77 at Port of Spain [802]
   9   3 lbw       3    
  28   3 lbw       2    L 5th Test  v WI  in WI  1976/77 at Kingston [803]
   0   3 caught    4    
 176   3 caught    1    D 1st Test  v Ind in Pak 1978/79 at Faisalabad [831]
  96   3 caught    3    
 235*  4 not out   2    W 2nd Test  v Ind in Pak 1978/79 at Lahore [832]
  34*  3 not out   4    
  42   4 caught    2    W 3rd Test  v Ind in Pak 1978/79 at Karachi [833]
 DNB   - -         4    
   2   3 caught    1    D 2nd Test  v NZ  in NZ  1978/79 at Napier [847]
  40   3 caught    3    
 135   3 caught wk 2    D 3rd Test  v NZ  in NZ  1978/79 at Auckland [848]
 DNB   - -         4    
  11   3 bowled    1    W 1st Test  v Aus in Aus 1978/79 at Melbourne [849]
  59   3 bowled    3    
  29   3 caught wk 1    L 2nd Test  v Aus in Aus 1978/79 at Perth [850]
  18   3 caught wk 3    
  40   3 stumped   1    D 1st Test  v Ind in Ind 1979/80 at Bangalore [861]
  31*  3 not out   3    
   3   3 bowled    1    D 2nd Test  v Ind in Ind 1979/80 at Delhi [863]
  50   3 caught wk 3    
   2   3 bowled    2    L 3rd Test  v Ind in Ind 1979/80 at Mumbai [865]
  11   3 bowled    4    
   5   3 caught    2    D 4th Test  v Ind in Ind 1979/80 at Kanpur [866]
   0   4 caught wk 1    L 5th Test  v Ind in Ind 1979/80 at Chennai [869]
  15   4 caught    3    
   8   3 caught    2    W 1st Test  v Aus in Pak 1979/80 at Karachi [876]
  18*  3 not out   4    
  19   3 run out   2    D 2nd Test  v Aus in Pak 1979/80 at Faisalabad [878]
   2   3 bowled    2    L 2nd Test  v WI  in Pak 1980/81 at Faisalabad [888]
  33   3 lbw       4    
  13*  3 not out   1    D 3rd Test  v WI  in Pak 1980/81 at Karachi [890]
   1   5 lbw       3    
   8   6 caught wk 2    D 4th Test  v WI  in Pak 1980/81 at Multan [892]
  80   5 bowled    1    L 2nd Test  v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Brisbane [910]
   0   5 lbw       3    
  90   5 caught    1    W 3rd Test  v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Melbourne [913]
 134   5 bowled    2    W 3rd Test  v SL  in Pak 1981/82 at Lahore [927]
  40   6 lbw       2    L 1st Test  v Eng in Eng 1982    at Birmingham [931]
   4   5 caught wk 4    
  75   5 bowled    1    W 2nd Test  v Eng in Eng 1982    at Lord's [932]
 DNB   - -         4    
   8   5 caught wk 1    L 3rd Test  v Eng in Eng 1982    at Leeds [933]
   4   5 lbw       3    
  91   5 caught wk 2    W 1st Test  v Aus in Pak 1982/83 at Karachi [935]
 DNB   - -         4    
 126   5 bowled    1    W 2nd Test  v Aus in Pak 1982/83 at Faisalabad [936]
  52   6 caught    2    W 3rd Test  v Aus in Pak 1982/83 at Lahore [937]
 DNB   - -         4    
 215   5 bowled    1    D 1st Test  v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Lahore [941]
 DNB   - -         3    
 186   5 lbw       2    W 2nd Test  v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Karachi [942]
 168   5 caught wk 2    W 3rd Test  v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Faisalabad [945]
 DNB   - -         4    
  25*  5 not out   1    W 4th Test  v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Hyderabad (Sind) [946]
  13   5 caught wk 1    D 5th Test  v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Lahore [947]
  43   4 caught    2    D 6th Test  v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Karachi [948]
  22   5 caught    2 *  D 1st Test  v Ind in Ind 1983/84 at Bangalore [961]
  49   4 bowled    1 *  D 2nd Test  v Ind in Ind 1983/84 at Jalandhar [962]
 DNB   - -         3 *  
  85   5 caught wk 2 *  D 3rd Test  v Ind in Ind 1983/84 at Nagpur [963]
 DNB   - -         4 *  
   0   5 caught    2 *  L 1st Test  v Aus in Aus 1983/84 at Perth [966]
  30   5 caught wk 3 *  
  56   5 caught    1 *  D 2nd Test  v Aus in Aus 1983/84 at Brisbane [969]
   3*  5 not out   3 *  
  46   5 caught    2 *  D 3rd Test  v Aus in Aus 1983/84 at Adelaide [970]
  44   5 run out   1    D 4th Test  v Aus in Aus 1983/84 at Melbourne [973]
  50   6 bowled    3    
  61   6 caught    1    L 5th Test  v Aus in Aus 1983/84 at Sydney [974]
  33   5 caught wk 3    
   0   4 caught    2 *  W 1st Test  v Eng in Pak 1983/84 at Karachi [978]
   8   4 bowled    4 *  
  68   5 lbw       1 *  D 2nd Test  v Eng in Pak 1983/84 at Faisalabad [981]
  32*  5 not out   3 *  
  82*  7 not out   2 *  D 3rd Test  v Eng in Pak 1983/84 at Lahore [984]
   5   5 caught    4 *  
 168*  5 not out   1 *  D 1st Test  v Ind in Pak 1984/85 at Lahore [995]
  26   5 caught wk 2 *  D 2nd Test  v Ind in Pak 1984/85 at Faisalabad [996]
  43   5 caught    2 *  W 1st Test  v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Lahore [998]
  31   5 caught wk 4 *  
   2   6 stumped   2 *  W 2nd Test  v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Hyderabad (Sind) [1000]
 DNB   - -         4 *  
  14   5 caught wk 1 *  D 3rd Test  v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Karachi [1003]
   3   5 caught wk 3 *  
   6   5 caught    1    L 2nd Test  v NZ  in NZ  1984/85 at Auckland [1010]
  12   6 caught    3    
   6   5 caught    1    L 3rd Test  v NZ  in NZ  1984/85 at Dunedin [1012]
   0   5 lbw       3    
 DNB   - -         2    D 1st Test  v SL  in Pak 1985/86 at Faisalabad [1026]
   4   5 bowled    2    W 2nd Test  v SL  in Pak 1985/86 at Sialkot [1027]
 DNB   - -         4

[armughal]

his low scores at the end of his career contribute to his low average against the NZ....

maybe he dint quite like windies bowlers....
big deal

and r u suggesting that AUS and ENG had no quality pacers during his days????

[armughal]

ZAHEER ABBAS ODI INNINGS

Runs Pos Dismissal I *+ R Match

  31   3 caught    2    W Pru. Trop  1 v Eng in Eng 1974    at Nottingham [14]
  57*  3 not out   2    W Pru. Trop  2 v Eng in Eng 1974    at Birmingham [15]
   8   3 caught    2    L World Cup  3 v Aus in Eng 1975    at Leeds [21]
  31   3 lbw       1    L World Cup  8 v WI  in Eng 1975    at Birmingham [26]
  97   3 bowled    1    W World Cup 12 v SL  in Eng 1975    at Nottingham [30]
  23   3 stumped   2    L Only ODI     v NZ  in Pak 1976/77 at Sialkot [40]
  10   3 caught    1    L Only ODI     v WI  in WI  1976/77 at Albion [41]
  26   3 bowled    2    L 1st ODI      v Ind in Pak 1978/79 at Quetta [54]
  48   3 caught    2    W 2nd ODI      v Ind in Pak 1978/79 at Sialkot [55]
  17   3 caught    1    W 3rd ODI      v Ind in Pak 1978/79 at Sahiwal [56]
  36   3 run out   2    W World Cup  4 v Can in Eng 1979    at Leeds [64]
  16   3 caught    1    W World Cup  7 v Aus in Eng 1979    at Nottingham [66]
   3   4 caught wk 2    L World Cup 12 v Eng in Eng 1979    at Leeds [71]
  93   3 caught wk 2    L World Cup SF v WI  in Eng 1979    at The Oval [73]
  95*  3 not out   1    L 2nd ODI      v WI  in Pak 1980/81 at Sialkot [96]
  42   3 bowled    2    L 3rd ODI      v WI  in Pak 1980/81 at Lahore [101]
   2   3 caught wk 2    W B&H WSC    2 v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Melbourne [123]
  46   3 caught wk 1    W B&H WSC    4 v WI  in Aus 1981/82 at Adelaide [126]
  38   3 caught    2    L B&H WSC    5 v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Adelaide [127]
 108   3 bowled    2    W B&H WSC    6 v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Sydney [128]
  35   3 caught wk 1    L B&H WSC    7 v WI  in Aus 1981/82 at Perth [129]
  84   3 caught    1    W B&H WSC    9 v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Melbourne [132]
   1   3 run out   1    L B&H WSC   11 v WI  in Aus 1981/82 at Sydney (d/n) [134]
  12   3 caught    2    L B&H WSC   12 v Aus in Aus 1981/82 at Sydney (d/n) [135]
  17   3 caught    1    L B&H WSC   13 v WI  in Aus 1981/82 at Brisbane [136]
 123   3 caught    1    L 2nd ODI      v SL  in Pak 1981/82 at Lahore [150]
   1   3 bowled    2 *  W 3rd ODI      v SL  in Pak 1981/82 at Karachi [151]
  53   3 lbw       1    L Pru. Trop  1 v Eng in Eng 1982    at Nottingham [154]
  13   3 caught    2    L Pru. Trop  2 v Eng in Eng 1982    at Manchester [155]
  26   3 caught    1 *  W 1st ODI      v Aus in Pak 1982/83 at Hyderabad (Sind) [158]
 109   3 stumped   1    W 2nd ODI      v Aus in Pak 1982/83 at Lahore [160]
   5*  3 not out   1    N 3rd ODI      v Aus in Pak 1982/83 at Karachi [161]
  10   3 caught    1    W 1st ODI      v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Gujranwala [162]
 118   3 bowled    1    W 2nd ODI      v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Multan [163]
 105   3 caught    1    L 3rd ODI      v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Lahore [164]
 113   3 caught    2    W 4th ODI      v Ind in Pak 1982/83 at Karachi [172]
  82   3 caught    1    W World Cup  2 v SL  in Eng 1983    at Swansea [198]
   0   3 bowled    2    L World Cup  6 v NZ  in Eng 1983    at Birmingham [202]
  83*  5 not out   1    L World Cup  9 v Eng in Eng 1983    at Lord's [205]
  15   3 caught    1    W World Cup 15 v SL  in Eng 1983    at Leeds [211]
   0   3 caught wk 1    L World Cup 17 v Eng in Eng 1983    at Manchester [213]
 103*  4 not out   1    W World Cup 22 v NZ  in Eng 1983    at Nottingham [218]
  30   4 bowled    1    L World Cup SF v WI  in Eng 1983    at The Oval [222]
  20   3 caught wk 1 *  L 1st ODI      v Ind in Ind 1983/84 at Hyderabad (Decc) [224]
  48   3 lbw       1 *  L 2nd ODI      v Ind in Ind 1983/84 at Jaipur [225]
  59*  4 not out   2 *  W 1st ODI      v Eng in Pak 1983/84 at Lahore [254]
  47   4 caught    1 *  L Asia Cup   1 v SL  in UAE 1983/84 at Sharjah [259]
  27   4 caught    2 *  L Asia Cup   3 v Ind in UAE 1983/84 at Sharjah [261]
  55   3 caught    1 *  W 1st ODI      v Ind in Pak 1984/85 at Quetta [272]
TDNB   - -         - *  N 2nd ODI      v Ind in Pak 1984/85 at Sialkot [273]
  13   3 lbw       1 *  W 1st ODI      v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Peshawar [276]
  25   3 caught    1 *  W 2nd ODI      v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Faisalabad [277]
  42   5 caught    2 *  L 3rd ODI      v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Sialkot [278]
  73   3 bowled    2 *  W 4th ODI      v NZ  in Pak 1984/85 at Multan [280]
  58   4 stumped   2    L 3rd ODI      v NZ  in NZ  1984/85 at Christchurch [302]
   4   3 caught wk 1    N 4th ODI      v NZ  in NZ  1984/85 at Auckland [306]
  25   3 caught    1    L B&H WCC    3 v Ind in Aus 1984/85 at Melbourne (d/n) [309]
   3   5 bowled    1 *  W B&H WCC    5 v Aus in Aus 1984/85 at Melbourne [311]
 DNB   - -         2    W 1st ODI      v SL  in Pak 1985/86 at Peshawar [335]
  61   5 caught    1    W 2nd ODI      v SL  in Pak 1985/86 at Gujranwala [336]
  21   5 bowled    2    W 3rd ODI      v SL  in Pak 1985/86 at Lahore [337]
  26   5 caught wk 1    W 4th ODI      v SL  in Pak 1985/86 at Hyderabad (Sind) [338]

[armughal]

from the official PCB site....
Zaheer Abbas Player Page

Profile:
In the mould of greats of `the Golden Era', Zaheer Abbas was a stylish, elegant batsman. In full flow, he was a sight for sore eyes. His avarice for runs matched that of the Aussie legend, and that was why he was dubbed the Asian Bradman. High praise indeed for there have been many greats but none matches the aura of the Don.

There was not a touch of arrogance about Zaheer's batting but of lyrical, fluent movement, his innings memorable for a refined, effortless beauty. His strength was precision and timing. He had the ability to go on back and front foot with equal facility, on occasions moving from backward to forward or vice versa during the course of one stroke and yet send the ball crashing to the fence. A high back-lift gave him a touch of elegance, and combined with powerful and supple wrists guiding the ball into the gaps on both sides of the wicket, he scored a very high proportion of his runs in boundaries. When the going was good, he seemed like a maestro at work, his artistry, his elegance leaving connoisseurs awestruck.

Zaheer's first big score came in England, a double hundred, 274 to be precise, at Edgbaston in only his second Test. With that innings, not only did he prove the pundits wrong, who thought that his technique and high backlift would make him highly suspect against the seaming ball, it also heralded the arrival of a new international star. Such was his mastery, so profound his concentration that he never seemed like getting out. He may have gone on and on, when sheer exhaustion got him; by the time he got out he had batted for nine hours and 10 minutes.

Many counties immediately lined up to recruit this lean and bespectacled youth, but he opted for Gloucestershire, a less fashionable choice but one which he did not regret. He never switched to another county, playing for Gloucester right to the end, making runs year on year in a huge pile, well in excess of 1,000 almost every season, 2,544 in one glorious Indian summer of 1976 and another 2305 in 1981.

Having already scored another double hundred (240) in the Oval Test in 1974 and some big scores on the Australian tour of 1976-77 including 101 at Adelaide, he was signed up by the Kerry Packer circus, which resulted in his missing two rubbers against England. When the Packer bunch was welcomed back to the fold for the Indian series, after an 18-year gap, Zaheer was at his majestic best, putting to sword the feared Indian spin quartet to notch scores of 176, 96 and 235 in successive innings. His tally of 583 runs in a short rubber was then a world record.

The only Asian to have made a century of centuries in first class cricket to date, he really had a Bradmanesque appetite for runs. Nothing reflects this better than his making a century in each innings on eight occasions in a first class match, a world record. All the more amazing is the fact that in four out of these eight, he made a double hundred and a hundred. His 100th hundred, predictably, a double hundred (215) against India in the 1982-83 Lahore Test was followed by two more Test hundreds in that series.

That was the last of his great series, and though he got the captaincy, which he so desired when Imran Khan got his famous shin injury, he only played one major innings, an unbeaten 168, again at Lahore, again against India. Never really comfortable against genuine pace, but then nobody really is, by then age was catching up fast and his reflexes had deteriorated a great deal. (explains his career ending low scores)

For one who was the epitome of grace in batting, his exit was rather unseemly as he opted out of the last Test of his career at Karachi in 1985-86 against Sri Lanka, not allowing himself a proper farewell. Zaheer blamed it on senior players, on Imran Khan in an indirect way. But perhaps he did so in a fit of pique, because having announced his retirement from Test cricket, he still wanted to remain active in the one-day version of the game. And the selectors, certainly with Imran prompting them, would have none of it. Whatever the reason, none would dispute that Zaheer deserved a better send off than he got.

(Agha Akbar, March 2001)

[Nussairee]

Mr-Moe, the only thing good about you is your nick ( i love it, although i think Barnie is better).

Mr Mor, If every1 started seeing world by your theories then there would be only Bradman and couple other left as a legendry batsmen.

Anwar has a mere avg. against SA, is he a mediocre?
Tendi sucked in NZ, does he not have a technique?
Ganguly cant play short balls aimed at his body, can we doubt his records and class?
Dravid finds fielders with 60% of the attacking shots he plays, is he a failure?
Bevan has limited shots in his armoury, should his avg of 56 be scrapped?

I'd like to take you on in the nets and see how good you are with the bat. Please stop droning over items that bother you, and remmember that world will be a boring place if every1 saw it eaxctly the way you did.

[The Grateful Dead]

Only a person who has never seen Zaheer playing and is only looking at stats can make such an ignorant remark. It was a treat to watch Zaheer bat. Very few batsmen can claim the class Zaheer had in his strokes. Who can forget Zaheer's cover drives?

Zaheer was the first batsmen in the world who came up with a run a ball strategy in one day matches, Javed picked this up much later.

For Zaheer's critics I will just remind them of his innings with Majid, against W. Indies in the world cup semi final.

[mo_best]

I have seen substantial footage of Abbas on both Western and Paki TV ect, and his technique stinks. He is a flat track bully, and all you can do in response is tout the line "Asian Bradman"-thats nothing but words. As for SRT-he doesnt constantly **** up against the finest pace bowlers, he had an off tour in NZL-Abbas's off period against the WI must have spanned his whole career.

Australia and the England had some decent bowlers, but there tactics were largely removed from the "china vase" method of the Windies quicks, and once Thomo mashed his shoulder in 76/77, the Aussie dou were never quite the same.

The specy ******* Abbas was simply NOT that good. Live with it.

Your throwing around 1 innings ect, ad that too in the ODI game-reputations are made in test cricket, no one cares about this ODI game-its only a laugh-iin the real arena, this boy couldnt cut the mustard.

[Sharaabi]

abe oo' erray......

you teenagers.....what else can you do, other than looking at stats and cursing past greats. Do you know how many matches Zaheer won for us.

He was for Pakistan what Hayden is for Australia rite now. Now dont come up with any bull**** stats or a statement that you saw a couple of footage, of him not performing well in West Indies, cause no ones gonna listen.

Pata nahin kahan se aajaate hai...cartoon salaa. apne ko khud chahe...stance lena na aata ho...chala hai Zaheer Abbas ko galian dene.

[mo_best]

I dont understand Urdu, so if you can put that last sentence into English-we can discuss the issue.

Next your gonna say Danish Kaneria is great cos he took 12 wkts against Bangladesh! :rotfl"

[mo_best]

And why are these stats bulls*it?

Why?

They are factual, true and accurately show his inability against the big boys of world cricket.

[Sharaabi]

go learn some Urdu...than come and talk