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    Best thing about today's win

    The best thing about today's game was that our Captain taking all the pressure and winning it for us

    Read it on twitter

    Sarfraz Ahmed is the first Pakistan captain to record a fifty-plus score in a successful run chase in an ICC ODI event

    Thank God. Had gotten so sick of Kuptaan Misbah scoring pointless 50s.

    Finally we have a captain who can lead from front unless the tuk tuk Misbah who destryoed our ODI team

    :yk:







    #2
    Re: Best thing about today's win

    Lol
    Turn the table...
    Sun to sahi jahan main hai tera fasana kya.

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      #3
      Re: Best thing about today's win

      Bani-e-Pakistan: Muhammad Ali Jinnah

      Bani-e-Tuk Tuk: Misbah-ul-Haq

      second Waleed's comments

      Misbah was a calm and decent individual but I absolutely blame him as well for this tuk tuk curse in ODIs. No one is asking you to hit a boundary every ball but for God's sake at least try to rotate the strike and keep the scoreboard ticking over

      Yesterday Fakhar took the required run rate out of the equation. So despite losing wickets there was at least no additional pressure on Sarfraz and Amir (yes they knew that there was not much batting to come after them) of climbing runrate

      Had it been Shehzad and Misbah yesterday, it would have been the same pathetic tuk tuk in the initial and middle overs with RRR climbing up from less than 5 at the start of the innings to above 7 in no time and we all know what happens then..

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        #4
        Re: Best thing about today's win

        Well, we will see how decent target of around 275 will be achieved when your middle/top order is collapsed, let alone 300 plus.
        Such targets have already been achieved by misbah many a times as his ODI win ratio is 53.48%. Most of wins under his captaincy were sort of similar to what happened against Sri lanka.
        Last edited by ajazali; Jun 13, 2017, 07:55 AM.
        Turn the table...
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          #5
          Re: Best thing about today's win

          Most of those wins (infact in our entire ODI history) were courtesy of good bowling rather than batting.

          I was listening to Atherton and Slater yesterday and out of the last twenty four 275+ run targets in ODIs, Pak have successfully chased the total only three times! That stat alone says it all
          Last edited by GoldenAsif; Jun 14, 2017, 02:11 AM.

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            #6
            Re: Best thing about today's win

            Originally posted by GoldenAsif View Post
            Most of those wins (infact in our entire ODI history) were courtesy of good bowling rather than batting.
            Atherton and Slater yesterday and out of the last twenty four 275+ run targets in ODIs, Pak have successfully chased only three times! That stat alone says it all
            why no courtesy to good bowling for this match as well then?
            Why single out misbah?
            But the point remains that its highly unlikely that we achieve a decent target when top order is collapsed.
            Turn the table...
            Sun to sahi jahan main hai tera fasana kya.

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              #7
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              When under pressure, Pakistan team always collapse, especially players who got included as batsmen. In match against SL, pressure was not on any bowler (like Amir), but pressure was on batsmen. On the other hand, if Amir had got out then there were 2 others who could have come to stand, but if Sarfraz had gone out than all believe that game was over.

              As for Amir, his performance was good, though normal, as he can give good batting performance occasionally, but team cannot rely on him as in his 23 ODI innings, this match was the third time he scored over 25 runs. on the other hand, on last 2 occasions (Pakistan lost on both those occasions), he was highest Pakistani scorer ... once in 2009 when he scored 73 no (out of total 204) and second time he scored 58 runs against England (3rd ODI, Aug 2016) ... where Sharjell also scored 58, Sarfraz 38 and M Nawaz 34, Yasir 26, Wahab 14. As for Pakistani batting line-up, other than Sharjeel and Sarfraz, all failed.

              Anyhow, I was checking Amir's performance and here is what happens in past:


              3rd ODI, 2009 against NZ. NZ gave target 212 to win. What happened, Pakistan team collapsed and lost 9 wickets for 101. Then Amir and Ajmal (10th wicket partnership) produced 103 runs ... in the end, Pakistan got all out at 204 and lost, 8 runs behind the target.

              Here is scorecard:

              3rd ODI: New Zealand v Pakistan at Abu Dhabi, Nov 9, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

              Salman Butt run out (Guptill/†McCullum) 25 49 34 4 0 73.52
              Khalid Latif lbw b Vettori 19 37 17 3 0 111.76
              Younis Khan* c Taylor b Bond 3 14 16 0 0 18.75
              Shoaib Malik c Styris b Mills 11 29 21 1 0 52.38
              Umar Akmal c †McCullum b Southee 12 41 24 1 0 50.00
              Shahid Afridi c †McCullum b Oram 5 19 10 0 0 50.00
              Kamran Akmal c Vettori b Southee 4 9 4 0 0 100.00
              Abdul Razzaq run out (Vettori/Southee) 0 13 8 0 0 0.00
              Umar Gul c Redmond b Oram 6 45 37 0 0 16.21
              Mohammad Amir not out 73 107 81 7 3 90.12
              Saeed Ajmal c Mills b Oram 33 71 44 2 0 75.00
              Extras (b 4, lb 4, w 4, nb 1) 13
              Total (all out; 49.1 overs) 204 (4.14 runs per over)
              Fall of wickets 1-47 (Khalid Latif, 8.2 ov), 2-51 (Salman Butt, 10.6 ov), 3-51 (Younis Khan, 11.1 ov), 4-74 (Shoaib Malik, 16.6 ov), 5-82 (Umar Akmal, 19.5 ov), 6-84 (Shahid Afridi, 20.4 ov), 7-86 (Kamran Akmal, 21.2 ov), 8-86 (Abdul Razzaq, 23.1 ov), 9-101 (Umar Gul, 33.1 ov), 10-204 (Saeed Ajmal, 49.1 ov)

              Last edited by Sa1eem; Jun 13, 2017, 12:40 PM.

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                #8
                Re: Best thing about today's win

                ^ what is the point of this post?
                Turn the table...
                Sun to sahi jahan main hai tera fasana kya.

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                  #9
                  Re: Best thing about today's win

                  In this match Pakistan needed 237 to win against SL. Sarfraz came in when team was struggling at 110 for 4 and soon Pakistan reached 137 for 6 (all batsmen except Sarfraz was left), and tail end started, still 100 runs behind the target. One can imagine the pressure, especially on lone batsman (Sarfraz) playing, knowing that if he loses his wicket than game is over and Pakistan is out of tournament too. As Sarfraz was Captain, pressure on him must be higher too, as, if team loses, he would have to answer many question, and would be made responsible of loss.


                  Now ... to see similar situation in July 2013. Pakistan needing 233 to win against WI (2nd ODI).

                  what happened? ... Pakistan under Misbah collapsed for 195, losing the game. This is Pakistani score, that shows how important it is that in such situation, a regular and responsible batsman stays on to finish the game.


                  2nd ODI: West Indies v Pakistan at Providence, Jul 16, 2013 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo


                  Nasir Jamshed c Roach b Pollard 54 142 93 4 1 58.06
                  Ahmed Shehzad c †Charles b Roach 19 38 33 1 1 57.57
                  Mohammad Hafeez c Simmons b Narine 20 23 25 3 0 80.00
                  Misbah-ul-Haq* b Sammy 17 42 41 2 0 41.46
                  Asad Shafiq c Holder b Samuels 10 16 17 1 0 58.82
                  Umar Akmal c Samuels b DJ Bravo 50 61 46 5 1 108.69
                  Shahid Afridi st †Charles b Narine 5 10 10 0 0 50.00
                  Wahab Riaz b Narine 3 11 10 0 0 30.00
                  Saeed Ajmal c Sammy b Narine 1 2 2 0 0 50.00
                  Asad Ali c Pollard b DJ Bravo 2 18 10 0 0 20.00
                  Mohammad Irfan not out 0 2 0 0 0 -
                  Extras (lb 3, w 11) 14
                  Total (all out; 47.5 overs) 195 (4.07 runs per over)
                  Fall of wickets 1-37 (Ahmed Shehzad, 10.4 ov), 2-64 (Mohammad Hafeez, 17.1 ov), 3-103 (Misbah-ul-Haq, 28.4 ov), 4-122 (Asad Shafiq, 33.1 ov), 5-137 (Nasir Jamshed, 36.2 ov), 6-151 (Shahid Afridi, 39.5 ov), 7-162 (Wahab Riaz, 43.1 ov), 8-164 (Saeed Ajmal, 43.4 ov), 9-195 (Umar Akmal, 47.4 ov), 10-195 (Asad Ali, 47.5 ov)

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                    #10
                    Re: Best thing about today's win

                    Originally posted by ajazali View Post
                    ^ what is the point of this post?
                    Bohut bara point hay, what you cannot see.

                    Maybe you are in PMLN distributing sweets after Supreme Court Panama result, without realising that 2 judges gave verdict in favour of NS (asking him politely to resign) while 3 judges formed JIT so that further dirt can be rubbed on Shareef family and they become complete naked in front of nation (nangay hou jayen quam kay samnay). ... Most funny was PMLN could not get the point about JIT (what you are not getting here) and started celebration judgement of 3 judges asking for JIT, cursing 2 judges who gave verdict in their favour (to get rid of them, with little dirt that JIT would put on them). ...

                    So, I know point ko samjhna mushkil hota hay, still.

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                      #11
                      Re: Best thing about today's win

                      Originally posted by Sa1eem View Post
                      Bohut bara point hay, what you cannot see.

                      Maybe you are in PMLN distributing sweets after Supreme Court Panama result, without realising that 2 judges gave verdict in favour of NS (asking him politely to resign) while 3 judges formed JIT so that further dirt can be rubbed on Shareef family and they become complete naked in front of nation (nangay hou jayen quam kay samnay). ... Most funny was PMLN could not get the point about JIT (what you are not getting here) and started celebration judgement of 3 judges asking for JIT, cursing 2 judges who gave verdict in their favour (to get rid of them, with little dirt that JIT would put on them). ...

                      So, I know point ko samjhna mushkil hota hay, still.
                      fantasizing Altaf
                      Turn the table...
                      Sun to sahi jahan main hai tera fasana kya.

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                        #12
                        Re: Best thing about today's win

                        Originally posted by ajazali View Post
                        fantasizing Altaf
                        hmmm ... waisay Don Shareef tou Altaf say bohut bara Don nikla.

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                          #13
                          Re: Best thing about today's win

                          Originally posted by Sa1eem View Post
                          hmmm ... waisay Don Shareef tou Altaf say bohut bara Don nikla.
                          aik chota haramkhor aik barra haramkhor, chota haramkhor qatal o gharat main expert hai, so brarbar hi huway na.
                          Turn the table...
                          Sun to sahi jahan main hai tera fasana kya.

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                            #14
                            Re: Best thing about today's win

                            Originally posted by Sa1eem View Post
                            Bohut bara point hay, what you cannot see.

                            Maybe you are in PMLN distributing sweets after Supreme Court Panama result, without realising that 2 judges gave verdict in favour of NS (asking him politely to resign) while 3 judges formed JIT so that further dirt can be rubbed on Shareef family and they become complete naked in front of nation (nangay hou jayen quam kay samnay). ... Most funny was PMLN could not get the point about JIT (what you are not getting here) and started celebration judgement of 3 judges asking for JIT, cursing 2 judges who gave verdict in their favour (to get rid of them, with little dirt that JIT would put on them). ...

                            So, I know point ko samjhna mushkil hota hay, still.
                            Kahaan se kahaan paunch gaye ho
                            The Pakistani Brain of the Austria (formerly known as "The Pakistani Brain of UAE")

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                              #15
                              Re: Best thing about today's win

                              Its a good thread though I thought Waleed will say good thing about today's win was that he opened the thread


                              I dont jump to conclusions quickly so wouldnt say how good Sarfraz is or no. We'll realize in some time. But one thing for sure he is somewhat more daring than previous captains. He has a little reflection of MS Dhoni (as captain). All the last few captains had been very very defensive. If Sarfraz becomes one too then he'll end up with few successes as well. I firmly believe fortune favors the brave.

                              The bigger challenge for Pakistan is:

                              1) To find replacements of Younus, Misbah etc.
                              2) Get rid of Shehzad, hafeez, Akmal(s) and in future, Malik. But who do we replace them with?
                              3) Find a quality spinner for limited overs. Where are all the spinners gone? Shadab did good in WI but we're yet to find.
                              4) Find a good pair of openers. Fakhar is a great find but can he and Azhar be the permanent opening pair?

                              So give Sarfraz a good team and then check how is he doing. Right now its a little early.
                              Attitude is more important than facts.
                              "Life is 10% what happens to us..and 90% of how we react to it"

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