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    Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

    Inzamam’s views to be considered for coaches appointment

    By our correspondent

    KARACHI: The views of Pakistan cricket team’s captain Inzamam-ul-Haq will be given a lot of weight while taking final decisions on the appointment of bowling and fielding coaches for the senior team by the Pakistan Cricket Board’s Ad-hoc Committee when it meets again on March 28.
    The committee, at its last meeting in Karachi on February 18, gave approval to the Board to appoint a bowling coach and a fielding coach for the team but a decision on the successful candidates would be taken at the next moot due to be held in Lahore.
    Inzamam has already told the PCB that he only wanted a fielding coach for the duration of the training camp that would be set up for the England tour and has indicated he would have no problems if former Test captain and pace-bowling icon Waqar Younis was appointed as the permanent bowling coach with the team till the next World Cup in 2007.
    However, the committee feels that when the PCB appoints specialist coaches for the National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Lahore in March it can get the selected bowling coach to also work with the national team and that there is no need to attach him permanently with the team.
    But in view of Inzamam’s hint towards Waqar a source said the Ad-hoc Committee might now revise its decision and give serious consideration to the former captain.
    Waqar was also approached to work as a bowling coach when Pakistan was going to India last year but couldn’t reach an understanding with the Board for various reasons.
    But Waqar has said he was interested in the job if the right offer was made and he was given the authority to work for a proper period with the bowlers.
    Inzamam, ever since being appointed as captain in November 2003, has been given a lot of importance by the PCB chairman who takes his suggestions seriously and acts on them.
    For example it was on Inzamam’s suggestion that the Board committee allowed leg-spinner Mushtaq Ahmed to be appointed as bowling consultant and then coach with the team during the England series.
    Interestingly, Inzamam recently held a long meeting with the Director Cricket Operations PCB, Saleem Altaf to discuss future plans of the team.
    Inzamam himself is undergoing a rehabilitation programme to recover completely from a nagging back problem that has affected him on and off for the last few years.

    Source: http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html

    I hope he uses his sense to advise the PCB NOT like his captaincy blunders for the batting/bowling positions and get the right person for the job rather than favouring someone like his friendship with Mushtaq Ahmed.
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    Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

    Thanks for the article Rock_Express.

    I really like the suggestion of hiring Waqar Younis as a bowling consultant, and even more the possibility of him working with the team without permanently attaching him to the players, since that would tend to create political tension in-between them. Mushtaq Ahmed's appointment is rendered useless, and as Imran Khan pointed out in his comments during a recent shoot of Straight Drive:

    "Never in my bowling career was I ever given an advice by a batsman which was worth anything."

    Along the lines of hiring "chamchaas", as per Inzamam.

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      #3
      Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

      oh good!finally the pcb is doing sumthing which will be much appreciated
      ~*~Pakistan hamari jaan, sabse pehley Pakistan~*~

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        Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

        Originally posted by Rock_Express
        However, the committee feels that when the PCB appoints specialist coaches for the National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Lahore in March it can get the selected bowling coach to also work with the national team and that there is no need to attach him permanently with the team.
        Can the shmucks atleast establish a bowling academy if they don't want to hire a coach for a proper period? There the greats like Waqar/Wasim can help pacers, while Aqib can help medium pacers, and if they really like Mushtaq Ahmed he can help out spinners

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          #5
          Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

          Had they appointed Waqar an year ago, the situation could have been much much better, but any ways its never too late.
          Allah humma lakal hamdo walakashukar....

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            Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

            Originally posted by Captain1
            Can the shmucks atleast establish a bowling academy if they don't want to hire a coach for a proper period? There the greats like Waqar/Wasim can help pacers, while Aqib can help medium pacers, and if they really like Mushtaq Ahmed he can help out spinners
            Yes it will be a good idea to have a bowling academy like the one they have in India but the question is will it funtion properly and who would they have as a coach? They have spent so much money on the National Cricket Academy with all the facilities but still can't find some one to run it properly.
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              Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

              Yes Inzmams point of view should be considered for the bowling/batting coach as he is the captain of the side but they PCB should also consider the opinion of others i.e. Bob Woolmer, past greats and other experts so that the right person is hired.

              Considering the way Inzmam captains the side in the field and his decision making skills, I am just concerned we may not get the right person because of his attitude and his insistance towards someone who may not be the right person for the job.

              Mushtaq Ahmed was hired as a bowling coach because Inzmam wanted him. Mushtaq Ahmed is a good cricketing brain and someone very useful to have in the side but feel that he should have worked as a assistant coach rather than a specialist bowling coach and learn from Bob Woolmer so that he can develop himself for the future.

              I don't think PCB will be able to hire a qualified specialist coach because there is no one available in Pakistan and will need to offer huge amount of money for any one from overseas. Therefore I think someone like Waqar Younis would be a good choice even though he is also not a qualified coach.

              I think Waqar Younis resides in Australia as his in laws are based there. Why doesn't the PCB hire him and pay towards all the specialist coaching qualifications from Australia rather than waste time and effort in someone like Shabbir Ahmed? Pakistan has up and coming bowlers and need proper guidance and investment needs to be made towards them.

              One thing to rememeber and have mentioned this many times in other threads is that to be a coach its not about batting or bowling but a lot else is involved including sports science and video analysis etc.
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                Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                Dont exactly remember but I read couple of days ago that PCB is looking to hire Jonty Rhodes or an American baseball player/coach as the fielding coach.
                Lets see how much drilling Inzi and Kaneria can sustain from Jonty or a baseball player
                Incompetent Clueless Clowns: ICC

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                  Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                  Originally posted by fkhan2
                  Dont exactly remember but I read couple of days ago that PCB is looking to hire Jonty Rhodes or an American baseball player/coach as the fielding coach.
                  Lets see how much drilling Inzi and Kaneria can sustain from Jonty or a baseball player
                  Definetely agree - what difference will it make to someone like Kaneria and Inzmam. Jonty Rhodes was an amazing and natural athelete. I personally feel how a good a fielder a player is depends partly on how good an athelete he is.

                  I remember Dean Jones comments in the recent Pakistan V India series regarding Pakistan fielding is that part of the problem is the surfaces they play are too hard and this may be one of the reasons why Pakistani players do not dive. He suggested tha something should be done about it i.e. digging the surface up and place something softer under the grass. I doubt very much the PCB will do anything like this.
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                    #10
                    Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                    Originally posted by Rock_Express
                    Yes it will be a good idea to have a bowling academy like the one they have in India but the question is will it funtion properly and who would they have as a coach? They have spent so much money on the National Cricket Academy with all the facilities but still can't find some one to run it properly.
                    To "run" the academy, we have tons of retired brigadiers, generals, colonels; for the coaching (bowling) responsibilities we have Wasim, Waqar, Aqib, Sarfaraz Nawaz (budha ghora lal lagam). Keeping them in academy will shut some of them up and make them work rather than talk (esp Sarfaraz). Also being in academy, they wouldn't have an opportunity to play any politics and disturb dressing room atmosphere.

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                      #11
                      Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                      Great article Rock_Express
                      At last, PCB is "wondering" to appoint a bowling coach taking in the consideration of a fielding coach as well as suggested by Inzamam. Given the option of Waqar Younis, boy that guy is willing to work with the team and put his tactics on the floor if given the right offer by the PCB. I can rest assure you that he will do everything for our ballers whether it's their speed, run up or action. He seems to really speak for the Pak ballers when he does the commentary.
                      I think employing a fielding coach won't be a bad idea at all given the fact that they should stay @ the National Cricket Academy and help Pak team during the breaks and stay in Pak for the junior players. Because, that's where the fielding and batting + bowling strategies really start to make sense and differ rather than @ the international level which can be too late.
                      Anyhow, employing Mushtaq Ahmed as a bowling consultant was really a "joke" to me. How many times have you heard that Alan Border or Javed Miandad acting as bowling coach never so putting Mushtaq Ahmed as a bowling coach is asking for cats to take care of "rats."
                      Mushtaq is a good choice for spinners but not for all bowlers so employing Waqar would be an excellent idea and I really do hope that PCB goes with it and also employ a fielding coach, may be for only summer or so but that would definitely improve the mindset about fielding of our players.
                      Till than take care,
                      Umer

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                        Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                        Originally posted by fkhan2
                        Dont exactly remember but I read couple of days ago that PCB is looking to hire Jonty Rhodes or an American baseball player/coach as the fielding coach.
                        Lets see how much drilling Inzi and Kaneria can sustain from Jonty or a baseball player
                        as much as i know the aussies started this trend ..... they hired a baseball coach especially for thrwoing the ball while fielding ...... goal was to throw from the deep FLAT, HARD and ACCURATE and that time and again ..... this needs proper fitness and proper positioning of the fielder itself before picking the ball ...... certainly a huge task after watching a few of our lads lately

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                          Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                          Umer579, just a suggestion, don't use the word "baller", used "bowler" instead

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                            #14
                            Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                            Originally posted by Rock_Express
                            Therefore I think someone like Waqar Younis would be a good choice even though he is also not a qualified coach.
                            When you have the likes of Sami consistently getting selected in the squad despite the horrible performances time and time again, but only for the sole reason to provide "one more chance" while shoving all the upcoming talents aside in the process, it is just about the right panel of choices in either selecting Akram or Younis to try and get the job done. They have been there, they are the experts, and they most likely will help these bowlers in the long-run.

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                            On the lines of Mushtaq Ahmed, I think it is about time we let go of these "chamchaas", and concentrate solely on fast-bowling department consultants, in the eyes of Wasim/Waqar/Aqib (as Captain1 mentioned above). Considering the fact that the likes of Danish Kaneria (do I really have to bring up Arshad Khan here?) are rarely getting their positions in the team, the sole focus should now be fielding as the top priority, and pace-area as distant second. We can have the latest and greatest crop of bowlers in the world, but if our own fielding is not up to measure (not only in pressure games, but in matches where the only object hanging in the balance is pride, and even that feat is declared as failed with deplorable fielding antics), it will be all for nothing.

                            On another note, I illusioned Pakistan as the winner of World Cup '07 in my dream last night.

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                              #15
                              Re: Inzmam - to be consulted for batting/bowling coach

                              Originally posted by Umer579
                              Mushtaq is a good choice for spinners but not for all bowlers so employing Waqar would be an excellent idea and I really do hope that PCB goes with it and also employ a fielding coach, may be for only summer or so but that would definitely improve the mindset about fielding of our players.
                              Till than take care,
                              Umer
                              If Mushtaq is a good choice for spinners only how is Waqar an excellent choice. I never saw him bowling leg or off spin. What we need is a coach not ex great bowlers, be it Mushtaq or Waqar.

                              I would rather have Aaqib Javed who has coaching abilities and the results are there in the form of Asif.

                              Miandad was our best batsmen, how many batsmen did he produce for Pakistan during his stint as coach. A good batsmen or bowler does not automatically become a good coach. Coaching needs specialists.

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