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    #16
    SID_NY To me, the whole implanted idea seems much like a conspiracy theory that came to existence post erodgen, we have similar stories in the subcontinent too. Mustafa Kemal is Lee of Singapore or Deng of China, no less.
    Even in Turkish History, he should be rated as high as Suleiman the magnificent.
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    • SID_NY
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      no i dont agree with that but we can talk about it more. Clearly he was brought there to cover the impact of ottomon empire and make sure it doesnt happen anytime soon.

    #17
    Originally posted by the kaur View Post
    SID_NY To me, the whole implanted idea seems much like a conspiracy theory that came to existence post erodgen, we have similar stories in the subcontinent too. Mustafa Kemal is Lee of Singapore or Deng of China, no less.
    Even in Turkish History, he should be rated as high as Suleiman the magnificent.
    Except his version of secularism meant changing holy scripture to "adapt" to the modern world. No Muslim majority country would ever accept this level of secularism.

    Also, comparing a secularist to a communist that is holding millions of a minority people against their will is a bit much, don't you think?

    Lee Kuan Yew, on the other hand was a gentle leader that ruled with anything but the iron fist. He allowed religions of all forms to co-exist, creating in my opinion the most perfect "melting pot" if you will. I find it incredibly humbling to see a Hindu temple just down the streets from a church and a mosque, all existing in almost perfect harmony with each other. And it's because of this, I have always admired LKY and what he has achieved, especially considering the timespan in which he achieved it. Singapore is a modern marvel, unfortunately its seen as little more than an off-shore money launderers paradise due to their incorporation & banking secrecy laws.
    "Some people believe that necessity is the mother of Invention, but they're wrong, its War" - James May

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      #18
      Originally posted by a7mado View Post

      Except his version of secularism meant changing holy scripture to "adapt" to the modern world. No Muslim majority country would ever accept this level of secularism.

      Also, comparing a secularist to a communist that is holding millions of a minority people against their will is a bit much, don't you think?

      Lee Kuan Yew, on the other hand was a gentle leader that ruled with anything but the iron fist. He allowed religions of all forms to co-exist, creating in my opinion the most perfect "melting pot" if you will. I find it incredibly humbling to see a Hindu temple just down the streets from a church and a mosque, all existing in almost perfect harmony with each other. And it's because of this, I have always admired LKY and what he has achieved, especially considering the timespan in which he achieved it. Singapore is a modern marvel, unfortunately its seen as little more than an off-shore money launderers paradise due to their incorporation & banking secrecy laws.
      What are you referring to by LKY?
      "Brevity is the soul of wit." Hamlet, William Shakespeare.

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        #19
        Originally posted by Cashmere View Post

        What are you referring to by LKY?
        LKY is short-hand for Lee Kuan Yew, who was the first prime minister of the Republic of Singapore. I've always admired him, despite our school history textbooks painting him as somewhat of a far-eastern Stalin of sorts. It is because of him that Singapore has achieved unparalleled success in such a short period of time.

        I will always have a soft spot for that man, and the country he helped build. Singapore is one of my favorite countries to move to.
        "Some people believe that necessity is the mother of Invention, but they're wrong, its War" - James May

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        • The Last Straw
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          I remember my dad would speak fondly of Singapore when we were kids.

        #20
        The video in original post too long so going to take a while until I watch it completely. So for now, I'll focus on the solution.

        Last decade & more of research, I have come to a conclusion that muslims all over the world (except a minority) are confused about what correct Islam is & which version they need to follow. It is due to lack of knowledge & bombardment of 1000s of distracting causes related to material world. Entertainment & news media, world politics are the two major ones.

        The truth is, actual islam is not an extremist religion as is viewed because the media tells us so, based on the crimes & sins of the murderers & criminals hired & sponsored by the same world controlling mafia that controls all forms of media (print/electronic/social) in all countries. Islam being an 'evil' religion is a large illusion given to the world population through an intelligent use of control over the world resources (mainly media & sponsored islamic jihadi groups).

        Actual islam is a message of peace & protection for all humanity. All the minor details of islamic living provide the same if adopted (correctly).

        The only way out of that confusion for muslims is to stick to the basics as taught by the prophet PBUH, stop following the same footsteps as the older ones, stop taking unislamic cultural & modern practices as islamic. Gain as much knowledge as possible in all the areas religion/islam being no exception. Infact, that should be a priority. READ! Most of modern research whether in the field of medical, astronomy, other sciences is in affirmation with Quran. Just that we have not read the book, not understood it correctly. Because the 'molvi mafia' of the jaahil muslims communities do not allow them to. Majority muslims have taken that 'molvi mafia' as the most ultimate, supreme religious authority putting away their own minds & intellect under the sun to dry because too many distractions, unpure food & other brain damaging content of the world have rendered them useless. No doubt there credible islamic scholars do exist but majority are unknown & so not accessible to common muslims as a source of knowledge / info.

        Mind control is a very powerful tool. There is nothing 'evil' in islam only benefit for all. That's why the world controlling evil mafia does not like that religion because they do not approve 'benefit for all' but only 'benefit for few'. Those 'few' that join their network or directly/ indirectly work for them.

        Need for muslims is to free their minds from that powerful mind control & learn islam starting from basics. Teach the same to their kids. They'll turn out to be better individuals than their parents & rest of the world that does not follow or understand islam as it is meant to be followed & understood.
        Last edited by SleekDesign; Jun 25, 2022, 02:29 AM.

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